Dr. Collins discusses the importance of investing in biomedical research on the podcast Freakonomics, M.D. Dr. Collins and host Dr. Bapu Jena cover a range topics including, Dr. Collins decision to step down as NIH director, the potential of high-risk, high-reward research, the benefits of the public and private working together, and more. OD 2021-12-16T00:00:00Z The NIH Director